You never know what youre going to run it to up here she shoots pretty solid, no miss fires ive gotten her covered with dirt and snow and she fired just fine. Earn more cash by selling your used textbooks to bookbyte. These are getting hard to find and becoming collectable. You are bidding on one ballester molina semiautomatic pistol. Ballester mollina is a south american brand made for military and police use, and also in a 22 caliber training pistol with the same grip frame as the. At some point between 1940 and 1942, hafdasa changed the trademark name of the pistol from ballester rigaud to ballestermolina, with.
Com is the worlds largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiats of all types. Not having the money on me, i utilized the can i put it on layaway clause. Colt 1911 45 vs ballester molina 11,25 foro full aventura. Wish alot of the new 1911 clones were made this good and accurate,but it would cost to much. Manufactured in argentina from 1927 to around 1960 with coltsupplied tools, it had parts interchangeable with any other standard government model, unlike the ballestermolina which also comes from argentina. Mar 20, 2015 45 acp speed for a colt or ballester molina by kalvin is licensed under the creative commons attribution noncommercial license. Additionally, the modelo 1938 designation was dropped, and the pistol was now known as the pistola ballester rigaud. Colt 1911 45 vs ballester molina 11,25 mensaje por casado. Systema 1927 top, colt 1911 middle, ballester molina bottom. I had one of these many years ago and it was extremely accurate. The ballesters did not, of course, always have a grip safety, and this one does not, only.
Improvements to the entire manufacturing process include better alloys, more controlled furnaces, vacuum heat treat, better tooling, and. Ballester molina armada argentina with german proof marks. All controls are very similar, except for the absence of a grip safety. The locking system is a near identical copy of the colt m1911a1, with the swinging lock used to unlock the barrel from the slide. Rear to front the first one has been verified that it is the german navy. For what its worth, i own a 9mm spanish star bm which is a fine pistol and roughly based on the original john browning design. Colt 1911 1911a1 commander pistol recoil spring 17 lbs. There are a total of 5 small arms from 1810 to 1819 entries in the military factory. This is similar in size to the 124b grooved grips, but are made smooth, to enhance pearl and set off medallions better.
They are made from english walnut of the natural color, checkered with the diamonds, oil finished. Barrels can be found at auctions sites, like ebay, auction arms, and gun broker. Jul 20, 2017 here are 3 ballester molinas including an army, border guard, and british examples and each are in 45 acp. The steel available today is of much higher quality than what was available in 1911 when the 1911 pistol was first produced. Ballestermolina military wiki fandom powered by wikia. Several years later, hafdasa hired a pair of engineers, the frenchman rorice rigaud, and carlos ballester molina a member of both the ballester and molina families. While the engineering concepts are similar to the m1911a1, it is not even close to being an exact copy.
This pistol was a variant of the m1911a1 pistol that is. Not many parts are interchangeable, the grips are definitely not compatible with 1911s, the hole spacing is different. The ballester is also known as the hafdasa, after the initials of the company that made it. Which aftermarket replacement barrel would be the best fit for this gun.
Barrels, which wear the same caliber designation, are interchangeable with 1911style pistols. This pistol was a variant of the m1911a1 pistol that is mostly based on the spanish star. Here are 3 ballester molinas including an army, border guard, and british examples and each are in 45 acp. Colt 1911 grips and the ballester molina if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. The middle one i think s of the free state of bavaria. Jun 09, 2015 the ballestermolina was used by argentinas security forces. When i got home i did some research and came up with.
The ballestermolina represented a localized argentine attempt to produce a costeffective. The ballester molina 1911 pistol was a licensed copy of john brownings 1911 pistol, issued by colt. Original argentine ballester molina colt 1911 7rd 45 magazine capacity 7. Produced by the high quality manufacturer hafdasa, ballester molina pistols were used for over 40 years by argentine military and government agencies. Rigaud eventually became hafdasas chief design engineer, while ballester molina, originally responsible for metallurgy, heat treatment, and production methodologies, became. Ballester molina made in argentina gun parts numrich gun. The ballestermolina represented a localized argentine attempt to produce a cost effective. The ballestermolina is a pistol designed and built by the argentine company hispano. Ballester molina interchangeability ive heard good things about the ballester molinas and would like to know what parts are interchangeable with the standard 1911s. They are similar to 1911 s but also quite different in a number of ways.
Here is an eminently collectable specimen of the argentine descendant of the colt 1911, a ballester molina hafdasa. These are grips for ballester molina a copy of colt 1911 made by hafdasa argentina. The model 1911 and model 1911a1 military and commercial pistols, 3rd edition, totals 566 pages. Milsurps knowledge library 194244 ballestermolina hafdasa. The only modern 1911 parts that readily interchange is the barrel. Hafadas balllester molina 45 auto handguns and ammunition. I recently purchased a very nice ballester molina and have been more than pleased with the shooting and overall finish and quality of the gun. It was a chopped version of the popular full size 9mm star model b which was used by the nazis as a substitute standard pistol during world war ii and later by the south african army in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Near as i can tell, the barrel and mag, maybe a few small parts might interchange between the two. Ballester molina made in argentina need ballester molina made in argentina parts. Manufactured in argentina from 1927 to around 1960 with coltsupplied tools, it had parts interchangeable with any other standard government model, unlike the ballester molina which also comes from argentina.
First will they fit like most 1911 clones and is it worth altering an already nice gun. The ballester trigger and hammer group are of the spanish star design and totally different. Entries are listed below in alphanumeric order 1toz. This example has fully adjustable rear sight, high contrast front sight, smooth mahogany grips. Though a few partsthe magazine, barrel and recoil spring groupswill fit the colt, the ballesters slide is about 0. So now i have this ballester molina 1911 on layaway. The only parts that are interchangeable with the colts at the. These have a wide stem and are not interchangeable the the colt 1911 pistols. The ballester molina 1911 pistol was a licensed copy of john brownings.
The gun was instantly attractive to the argentine military as the ammunition, 7shot magazines, and holsters from their existing supplies of colts were interchangeable. The m1911 pistol originated in the late 1890s as the result of a search for a suitable selfloading. In fact, except for the magazine, parts between the two firearms are not interchangeable. It is a copy of the 1911 colt pistol that was made by the argentina government from 1938 until 1953, for use by their military and police. The 1911 pattern also formed the basis for the argentine ballester molina and. Only a few parts will interchange between the 1911 government model pistol, and the ballester molina. Get the best deals on argentine gun parts and upgrade your home workout gear with the largest online selection at. This offering is for a set of 4 ballester molina 1911 grip screws. The ballestermolina has been described as an unauthorized copy of the u. Research is one thing ive become forumfamous for in a few places. In other words, you cannot use these grips on a 1911 clone, and you cant put colt 1911 grips on a ballester molina. The familiar ballestermolina rollmark is the first sign this isnt a standard pistol.
Willing to drive an hour outside of pdx to your ffl dealer be sure they will deal with private parties first. I know the barrel and mags are parts that are interchangeable with standard 1911 parts, so. Navy in the batch shipped to the new york naval shipyard in july. The following parts on the bm interchange with the 1911. Inspire a love of reading with prime book box for kids discover delightful childrens books with prime book box, a subscription that delivers new books every 1, 2, or 3 months new customers receive 30% off your first box.
Guns for sale ballestermolina argentine ballestermolina. Ballester molina was manufactured under license from colt, to reproduce the 1911 colt government, same way feg was licensed to reproduce the browning hp in hungary so, the colt government is not a 1911. Wts or ballester molina gendarmeria nacional 45 acp pistol. At some point between 1940 and 1942, hafdasa changed the trademark name of the pistol from ballester rigaud to ballester molina, with the change reflected in the markings on the slide of the pistol. The exception might be a longterm restoration project where you dont care how much money you end up putting into the project.
Home m1911m1911a1 commercial parts colt officer parts colt 1911 1911a1 commander pistol recoil spring 17 lbs. Both were really pretty good shooters, and as good as your typical 1911. No internal changes were made, and parts remained interchangeable between the two. These are new old stock with a bluedblack finish, used 2 per side to hold the wooden grip pannels in place. The ballester molina is also known as the hafdasa, after the initials of its manufacturer. The ballester molina is also known as hafdasa, after the initials of its manufacturer. Barrel and slide are not numbered on this specimen. Colt 1911 grips and the ballester molina gunboards dot com. This is a discussion on hardasa ballester molina within the semi auto pistols forums, part of the handgun forum category. I have recently came across this posting and need some help also. Plus ship your books for free and get paid cash, fast. Ballester molina 1911 grip screws set of 4 liberty tree collectors.
Interesting firearms the ballestermolina lots of pics. Ballestermolina semiautomatic service pistol military factory. Shop ballester molina made in argentina gun parts molina 45. It has been rearsenaled and is allmatching except mag, but the barrel is worn out and pitted. I have a molina with three small marks on the right side of the receiver just above the front trigger guard. Despite its relation to the original browning design, some of the internal parts of the ballestermolina were not interchangeable. The star 9mm is one of the old ones that was obviously designed to look like a 1911. These grips mount with two screws each that go directly into tapped holes in the frame, rather than the us government standard specs for a 0. I know the magazines are, someone once told me the barrels were, but i question that. The ballester is a bit crude looking compared to the sistemas. Walt kulecks new book, the m1911 complete assembly guide, is the.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiats, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Despite its relation to the original browning design, some of the internal parts of the ballestermolina were not interchangeable with the m1911. The ballester molina was a private venture, and derived in most part from spanish designs. Ballestermolina and colt 1911 interchange the firearms. The model 1911 and model 1911a1 military and commercial. Stockingtease, the hunsyellow pages, kmart, msn, microsoft. Due to the coronavirus covid19 outbreak and measures imposed by our state government, our operations are temporarily suspended. Parts for ballester molina the curio and relic firearms. This weapon was incorporated into the ea in 1938 as caliber. I know the 1911 extractor is too long but a 38 super extractor is shorter than a 45 extractor so would that be close enough to work.
Thus this compiles the works all those currently affiliated with this institution, not those affilated at the time of publication. Ballester molina industria argentina other than the serial number, that is all that is stamped on the gun. Jul 31, 2016 selling my ballester molina gendarmeria nacional pistol in vg condition. It includes 84 tables detailing parts and markings and 678 photos and drawings. Although many other parts appear identical at first glance, they are not. Numrich gun parts corporation offers the largest selection and best prices for hard to find ballester molina made in argentina parts. Theres lots of interesting lore associated with the ballester molina and the ballester rigaud, especially where the steel used to make them came from. Ballaster molina vs ballaster rigaud gun and game the.
I was wondering your thoughts on this make pistol and and the thought of adding a set of hogue rubber grips to one. The ballestermolina is a short recoiloperated semiautomatic locked breech pistol. Ballester molina made in argentina gun parts numrich gun parts. The familiar ballester molina rollmark is the first sign this isnt a standard pistol. Just picked up a bm cheap range gun at the local fun shop. The ballestermolina and the m1911 share an identical sevenround magazine, barrel, recoil spring, and. Shop for ballester molina 45 parts, schematics, and more with numrich gun parts. The argentinian ballester molina 1911 variant youtube. Not many parts are interchangeable, the grips are definitely not compatible with 1911 s, the hole spacing is different. This pistol has been redone to like new condition with new parkerizing and custom grips for sale by reggie macamaux on gunsamerica 908099847.
New stainless barrel refinished with cerakote or similar. Ballester molina made in argentina gun parts numrich. The ballester molina and the m1911 share an identical sevenround magazine, barrel, recoil spring, and barrel bushing. A friend of mine wants to trade me a ballester molina that has a broken extractor. Even though it looks a lot like a 1911, the only parts that are easily interchangeable are the barrel, operating spring, and the magazine. The ballestermolina was also chambered to fire the large. A few hundred rds of ball and she runs like a top with super accuracy. Barrels, which wear the same caliber designation, are interchangeable with 1911 style pistols. Flag images indicative of country of origin and not necessarily the primary operator. The graf spee and the ballester molina american rifleman who knows what the truth might be. The ballester molina has a pretty worn out barrel but other then that and the grips seems to be in pretty good shape. The latter are copies of the colt, made with coltsupplied machinery and tooling.
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